Committee Meeting 2018-07-26 (2018-07-27 in Australia)

The meeting will take place at 20:00 UTC in the IRC channel #board-meeting on the CAcert IRC network.

08:00 PM GMT = 22:00 CEST = 15:00 New York EDT = '''07:00 Australia AEST'''

Feel free to add a business item within the acceptance period of 48 hours or your question to the board below. Non-committee Members: Committee may choose to convert any business proposed as a question in the questions section.

Premeeting

  1. Minutes author prepares the minutes from the last meeting

  2. Minutes author prepares the actions from meeting and actions overview. All action owners to update.

  3. Minutes author puts motion m20180621.1 to accept the minutes from the last meeting.

Agenda Variant A

If representants from the arbitration forum join the meeting:

  1. Preliminaries
    1. Chair opens the Committee Meeting
    2. Who is making minutes?
  2. Business
    1. Commitee
      1. Annual General Meeting: fix a date (Etienne)
    2. Arbitration
      1. Discussion with arbitrators
  3. Question Time

    1. Question One added by Your Name Comment: Replace "Question One" by Your Question and add your Name

      • et cetera
  4. Closing
    1. Agree on date of the next Committee Meeting
    2. Chair closes the Committee Meeting

Agenda Variant B

If not A, then:

  1. Preliminaries
    1. Chair opens the Committee Meeting
    2. Who is making minutes?
    3. Is there a timelimit? Who is time keeper?

    4. Accept the minutes from the last meeting.

    5. Chair asks whether cacert-board-private or cacert-board maillist includes any items that need to be disclosed to Members.

    6. Chair points actions from last meeting to the meeting, and asks for discussion.

    Acceptance of Businesses 48 Hours before beginning of Committee Meeting latest!

  2. Business
    1. Commitee
      1. Public Officer
      2. Annual General Meeting (Etienne)
      3. Finances (Frédéric)
        1. short report
        2. Invoice Hosting 11/2017-05/2018 €1107.65
    2. Community
      1. France (Frédéric)
      2. other
    3. Bug-Tracking

      1. Bug 1260 Make the source compatible with recent PHP versions (continued) short report (GuKK)

      2. Bug 1417 unable to generate certificate (continued) short report (Peter N)

      3. Bug 1432 since september, 8th, 2017 CAs must check DNS' CAA records (continued) short report

    4. running out of money mid 2018 (continued) ideas

      1. short reports:
        1. Australian grant (Brian)
      2. further ideas

    5. Business added by Your Name Comment: Replace "Business One" by Title of Business and add your Name

      • Additional Inputs Comment: Replace "Additional Inputs"by Description of Business, Description of Reason-Why/Purpose, Additional Comments, Additional Documents, Additional Links, if useful for other Committee Members to prepare for Committee Meeting.

    6. et cetera

    Questions from CAcert.org Community Members can be added until beginning of Committee Meeting! As well questions can be asked at "Question Time", without added Question here

  3. Question Time

    1. Question One added by Your Name Comment: Replace "Question One" by Your Question and add your Name

      • et cetera
  4. Closing
    1. Agree on date of the next Committee Meeting
    2. Chair closes the Committee Meeting

Logfile

Logfile from meeting 2018-07-26

Minutes

Minutes will be written once the meeting is finished, with tasks listed in action items and Actions of this document.

Present: Peter N., Etienne, Frédéric, Brian

Apologies: Peter M., Ross, Peter

Missing:

Guests: Karl-Heinz, Dirk, Alex-UK, Q

Preliminaries

At 20:04 UTC Brian took chair and opened the meeting. As Alex-UK is our guest, we follow Agenda A. The secretary will write the minutes. The AGM 2018 will be held on Fri, 19. October 2018, 20:00:00 UTC = Fri 22:00 Central Europe* = Fri 16:00 NY* = Sat 07:00 Sydney*

Business Alex-UK states, that we need more arbitrators. Case Manager is a little easier as essentially administrative role. Promortion path is essentially moving through the training process in the Arb wiki. We have one active CM, two active arbs and two inactive arbs (as both are officers); a third arb turns up from time to time. Alex-UK doesn't think we could handle more than two at a time as new members are meant to be mentored through the training. It's also about getting the right members - they need some legal understanding in common law to go on to full arb - but also need a degree of flexibility to make things work. If they are too dogmatic, issues occur as per the recent big blow-up. The priority is to find two cas managers. Maybe one can be found in France?

Another arbitrator and a former PO sent mails to the committee, writing they do not see anymore any future for CAcert. Alex-UK thinks that there is a slim path - but it's also possible that too many other areas have been broken. It seems to Peter N. with so few active members and such complex separation of powers we are pushing it up hill with a tooth pick. If you do this you can't do that.. in SO many places. On the other hand, we have still so many members. The secretary thinks that only 10% are real members, but this would still be tens of thousands. The president sais, that perhaps we need to know WHY they are not active.

Another point is the ABC. DRP implies that cases must be closed before an appeal - but the ABC case is not closed. Dirk and Alex-UK agree to discuss this topic and look if there is a way out to solve the "broken" situation. Furthermore, an active DRO might be empowered to ensure that cases don't stagnate.

It sounds to the president as if there are a few things that we, as the Board, can do immediately, as well as recruiting more CMs and trainee Arbitrators.

Question Time The secretary is asking, if there is a ruling needed to send an e-mail to all community members. Answer: All community members, probably; all Inc members, no.

Closing The president thanks Alex-UK very much for his assistance.

We aggreed on 2018-08-17-20:00 UTC for the next meeting (it is a Friday).

Chair closed the meeting at 22:27 UTC

Motions

Actions

Who

Status

Action

Minutemaker

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prepare Agenda and Minutes for the next meeting

Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2018-07-26 (last edited 2018-08-16 01:16:48 by EtienneRuedin)