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Minutes of the MiniTOP on the 2011-09-20

Setting

The MiniTOP will be held via telco 22:00 CEST

Attendees: dirk, alex, ted, magu, uli, michael, mark

Topics

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Action items from last meeting Meeting Action Items

Agenda

1. PR work - Alex proposal
   1. thawte patch - blog post
   2. newsletter mailings
      1. thawte patch details
         1. infos about thawte points removal
         2. infos about points counting
            • Update ? Text proposal ?
      2. Security campaign, Newsletters (1 month later, 6-8 weeks later)
         1. weak passwords (bug 637)
         2. password reset w/ Assurance replaces pwd reset thru paypal
         3. cert login security fix (bug 841)
         4. weak keys disabled (bug 918)
         5. class3 re-sign with sha256
         6. check your CAcert account
            1. create a client cert for client cert login (also needed for CATS)
            2. check your secret questions
            3. check your password
            4. check your notification settings
            5. check your location settings
2. New function to TMS - edit notary table record

   • bug #980

3. Software-Assessors blockage - The List of open / running / unhandled bugs - Part I

   1. bug #827

      • Dirk, Michael

        bug #827 and bug #959 Thawte patch/Points-Count-Order-Change project

        related bug 959: needs 1 more test, needs 2nd review / 2nd review: also check -x / tests done, needs 2nd review 959 {g} reviewed, deployed 827 {g} reviewed, deployment in 2 steps deployed, report from Wytze

        {g} {0}

      • request by Joost for variable fields
      • next steps:
        1. preparing PR, support (see below)
           1. Thawte Patch - PR strategy
              • alex to prepare blog post
              • if the patch goes active, this needs support
              • wiki faq (existing page? thawte topic?)

              • blog (-> alex)

              • mailing list
              • press release? probably not at this state
              • Support: could be better, but is ok
                • Triage: where to forward Thawte patch requests?
                • add to Support team meeting agenda
        2. reviewed last meeting. needs transfer to critical team
           • transfer to critical team, done.
           • mailing to people: Ted, Florian F, PG, Wytze, Carsten L, Jeff F, Frank K (ask Marcus) 120 pts, Sebastian K, done.
           • report by Wytze: problem with Unknown, Trusted Third Parties, Assurances before 2006 (0,0)
4. Translingo
   • the translingo.cacert.org had been in operation far longer, so I think it is possible that some users migrated to translingo.cacert.org, without telling us.
   • I would suggest to mass-mail the email addresses of the translation-project leaders in the translingo database, to inform them, and to ask them to speak up if they still need it
   • last foreign uploads 2008 on about 13 + cacert projects
   • whohas translingo server console access?
     • mario
   • req for console access for michael to contact project leaders, Updates?
   • Transfer In, Transfer Out problems
   • Update from new deployment ?
5. Dirks workqueue - The List of open / running / unhandled bugs

   1. VBscript for Vista/Win7 (select keysize >= 1024) - reminder to dirk

      • x1 Dirk, new bug#964 DEV: bug#918 (Part II) (a20110312.1) Weak keys: /pages/account/.. 4.php, 17.php to combine ? (/includes/keygen.php) DEV

        current state: test /account/4.php added to testserver Marcus will do detailed tests on Wed some references added to bug#964

        {-}

      • as part of

      • x¹ Arbitration case a20110312.1 Weak keys bug #918 / bug #954 / bug#964

      • Current state:

        • {g}	pre mailing sent
          {g}	keys revocation script to bulk revoke weak keys, new bug #954, finished
          {-}	dirk: DEV: a20110312.1 bug#918 Weak keys: /pages/account/.. 4.php, 17.php to combine ? (/includes/keygen.php) DEV vbscript needs to be improved with select box key size and lower limit to 2048 (based on https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:MD5and1024) Api CertEnroll (MS crypto provider) new bug#964 current state: test /account/4.php added to testserver Marcus will do detailed tests on Wed some references added to bug#964
          {g}	Weak keys blog post, published
          {g}	Weak keys article published by Hanno(July 28), link is in CAcert's blog post (July 30)
          {b}	weak keys: problems with cryptostick (to test at Froscon with Juergen ?)

      • cert enroll infos under bug#964

      • vista and win7 works with other engine !CryptoAPI (?) => Cryptography API: Next Generation

        • http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa833130%28v=VS.85%29.aspx

        • Marcus: added notes for Win7 https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=964#c2249

      • Update (3rd week) ?
   2. Advertising

      1. Prepare Advertising fix for testserver - reminder to dirk

         • Dirk

           Advertising (from last board meeting), bug #958

           add changes as discussed in last meeting to testserver

           {0}

         • CAcertInc/LogosForSale/Rules wiki link exist

         • "buy me" logo / "Logo For Sale" logo / "Monthly Auction on Logos" logo
         • Logos and Links exist, needs deployment to testserver
         • Update (3rd week) ?
      2. google ads, nobody knows about

         • http://google.de/adsense/ - needs google account

           • ad client id: pab.*9860, email adress is needed
           • board member to write email request to Robert, Philipp, Philpp, Teus, ernie
           • contact google?
           • account recovery?
           • dirk: google ads account - to write mail to treasurer (address from invoice)
         • Update (3rd week) ?

6. Software-Assessors blockage - Bugs to Review #1, transfer to testserver - Currently 7

   • uli	bug #977 admin console text fix	admin console Sysadmin - find domain - lists 2 tables - one for user accounts, one for org accounts, naming issue	{0}
     uli	bug #967 OA isassurer check	Give an OA the oppertuntiy to check if a desiginated Organisation Admininistrator is a CAcert assurer	{0}
     uli, Ted	bug #965 0000965: Outsource / fix Webdb text pages id=12, 13	addtl. id=37, id=38, new update	{0}
     uli	bug #859 admin console interface	feature request: show activity on an account in the admin interface, new update	{0}
     uli	bug #855 admin console interface "unknown" + "empty" assurance method fields, needed for correct testing on testserver	admin console lists "empty" and "Unknown" Assurance types on listing given Assurances	{0}
     uli	bug #823 email address removal fix	No warning when removing e-mail adres from acount that certificates wil be revoked	{0}
     inopiae	bug #981 OA overview	New layout of view for Organisation Administraors in account/id35	{0}

   • 7 open fixes available (week 4), needs 1st review by 1st Software-Assessor
7. Bugs under testing: - Currently 9

   • uli, Michael	bug #966 cancel doesn't cancel but processes instead	potential workaround to fix all "Cancel" requests available addtl. individual fixes new update 2011-08-30 at least one more test	{0}
     uli, Ted	bug #957 Resize the comment field on https://secure.cacert.org/account.php?id=27 so more information is visible	new fix avail 2011-08-19 at least one more test	{0}
     Dirk	bug #894 problems with check-boxes on website forms (Assure someone) -> a20091118.3	1st review still needed two testers to test	{0}
     uli	bug #824 Org User cert fix	Organisation User Certificates: Need UI improvement for proper production usage needs some more fixes	{0}
     uli	bug #975 admin console interface (2)	report potential database inconsistency in SE console (debug infos), new update	{0}
     uli	bug #968 error logging cleanup (splitted bug #909)	split 0000909: too many error messages logged - part II - general.php	{0}
     uli, ted	bug #882	display Assurance when field in list of assurances received, assurances given by a user in admin console interface, new update	{0}
     uli, ted	bug #794	visibility over certificates for sysadm in account administration, new update	{0}
     uli	bug #789 OA edit domain fix	Editing domain for organisations does not work	{0}
     moh	bug #596 certs list advanced	display ser# in certs overview lists	{0}

8. Software-Assessors blockage - Needs 2nd review + transfer to Critical team, to bundle, to deploy - Currently 4 (!!!)

   • uli, ted	bug #955 change sort order Orga list	Possibilty to change the sorting order for the organisation overview	{0}
     uli, ted	bug #940 help* to wiki	Outsource Webdb text pages help.php?id=0..9 to wiki needs review, deploy	{0}
     uli, ted	bug #910 Outsource board member list	from Webdb to wiki (id=8) (Part II)	{0}
     Ted, uli	bug #846 Join Form restructure, help link	Better guidance of bonafide members in Join Form about Suffixes they doesn't have in their ID doxs (a20100207.2)	{0}

9. Needs development, deployment, discussion

   1. bug #835 Migrate CATS onto testserver

      • bug #835 Assurer challenge (on testserver)

        asssigned to Ted, CATS to install on ca-mgr1, awaiting deployment

        {0}

   2. bug #943 change OA admin/assurer text

      • bug #943 change OA admin/assurer text

        -> Ted, rejected, needs comment from OAO

        {-}

      • webdb names OrgAdmins as OrgAssurers and names OrgAssurers as OrgAdmins.

      • patch takes account about this issue
      • problem with menu link Org Admin .. is Org Assurers menu
        • but this menu includes one addtl. link "View" that is available for Org Admins
          • and Org Admins with master flag to add new admins

        • master flag is not described in OAP

        • addtl master flag to revoke ?
        • rename to "Org Administration"

        • don't show menu to OrgAdmins

   3. dupe bug# 981

10. strategy plans ... next: strategy for "New Roots & Escrow"

    1. idea: using indirect crl's ?
       • 2 crl's needed, one valid, one invalid crl server
       • more infos available ? who ?
         1. build testserver with special certs
         2. Magu, Michael to send instructions for test deployment

            • indirect CRL: RFC 5280 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5280 (chapter 5)

       • meetings ago we've defined Testing requirements and a potential testszenario
       • to remind every meeting
       • Michael: testserver environment deployment
    2. policy group: define requirements
       • multimember escrow method ?
         • needs risk analyze
         • potential candidates ?
           • Marcus to contacted Benedikt, will contact Thomas K
           • Next step(s)
    3. how does debian work ?
       • defered to Froscon (end of Aug), CCCcamp (around Aug 10th)
11. CI (Update)

    1. description to eclipse testpage, Webinar

       • deployment scenario:
         1. create testusers
         2. testing
         3. delete testusers
       • regression test for standard tests: eg 0,1,49,50,51,99,100,101 pts w/ and w/o CATS passed
       • reminder
    2. Jubula Test-Tool (by Michael) - update?

       • http://www.eclipse.org/jubula/download.php

       • instructions see under Minutes meeting 2011-08-30

       • test deployment needs to be continued by software testers
12. next meeting: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 22:00

Minutes

1. PR work - Alex proposal
   1. thawte patch - blog post
   2. newsletter mailings
      1. thawte patch details
         1. infos about thawte points removal
         2. infos about points counting
            • Update ? Text proposal ?
      2. Security campaign, Newsletters (1 month later, 6-8 weeks later)
         1. weak passwords (bug 637)
         2. password reset w/ Assurance replaces pwd reset thru paypal
         3. cert login security fix (bug 841)
         4. weak keys disabled (bug 918)
         5. class3 re-sign with sha256
         6. check your CAcert account
            1. create a client cert for client cert login (also needed for CATS)
            2. check your secret questions
            3. check your password
            4. check your notification settings
            5. check your location settings
   3. Alex prepared an article

      • 150 pts -> rewrite

      • "Diese von der CA Thawte vergebenen Punkte können schon seit geraumer Zeit ..."
        • points cannot be verified
        • these points will be revoked
        • "nicht mehr beruecksichtigt"
2. New function to TMS - edit notary table record

   • bug #980

   • testers needs editing individual notary records: fields "method", "awarded", "points"
   • easier to create notary records with testserver (add F2F), and edit existing record, doesn't need to check for assurer-from, assuree-to and so on

3. Software-Assessors blockage - The List of open / running / unhandled bugs - Part I

   1. bug #827

      • Dirk, Michael

        bug #827 and bug #959 Thawte patch/Points-Count-Order-Change project

        related bug 959: needs 1 more test, needs 2nd review / 2nd review: also check -x / tests done, needs 2nd review 959 {g} reviewed, deployed 827 {g} reviewed, deployment in 2 steps deployed, report from Wytze

        {g} {0}

      • request by Joost for variable fields
      • next steps:
        1. preparing PR, support (see below)
           1. Thawte Patch - PR strategy
              • alex to prepare blog post
              • if the patch goes active, this needs support
              • wiki faq (existing page? thawte topic?)

              • blog (-> alex)

              • mailing list
              • press release? probably not at this state
              • Support: could be better, but is ok
                • Triage: where to forward Thawte patch requests?
                • add to Support team meeting agenda
        2. reviewed last meeting. needs transfer to critical team
           • transfer to critical team, done.
           • mailing to people: Ted, Florian F, PG, Wytze, Carsten L, Jeff F, Frank K (ask Marcus) 120 pts, Sebastian K, done.
           • report by Wytze: problem with Unknown, Trusted Third Parties, Assurances before 2006 (0,0)

   2. blog post or mail ? -> both

   3. last review by dirk (at checkin)
   4. "Deleted before Verification" together with "Thawte", needs updated
   5. old tverify automatic procedure /tverify/index.php stores userid=0 into the notary table
      • if user gets deleted, userid doesn't exist, results in same text

      • if username empty -> deleted before verification, if userid=0 name=system, support console email field -> empty

   6. dirk needs results from arbitration a20100822.1 request to magu

4. Alex - OA test

   • as OrgAdmin sees all orgs (org admin flag means org assurer (per policy))

5. https://translations.cacert.org (http://translations.cacert.org/) (replacement for translingo)

   • create an account can now be started
6. bug#824 0000824: Organisation User Certificates: Need UI improvement for proper production usage (case study)
7. Dirks workqueue - The List of open / running / unhandled bugs

   1. VBscript for Vista/Win7 (select keysize >= 1024) - reminder to dirk

      • no update
   2. Advertising

      1. Prepare Advertising fix for testserver - reminder to dirk

         • delayed
8. active patches on testserver: now 11
   • uli sent email to testers today noon
9. two patches transfered to critical team
   • 910
   • 940
10. Jubula Test-Tool (by Michael) - update?
    • no updates
11. bug#968 - to testers
    • create client, server, gpg keys, org client and server certs
12. support: template for replys?
    • uli to create faq page
13. dirk: when will 827 goes to production ?
    • michael: will check this week
14. next meeting: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 22:00

Fixed Action Items since last or within meeting

• (dirk) mario	google ads account - to write mail to treasurer (address from invoice)	{g}
  Alex	thawte patch 827: alex to prepare blog post	{g}

  Done: Michael, Dirk, Michael ToDo:

  bug #841 Problems on cert login

  needs 2nd review, deploy

  {g}

Action Items New

• Uli

  to create faq wiki page "Thawte patch / new points count"

  {0}

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