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= Minutes of the MiniTOP on the 2010-10-12 =

== Setting ==
The MiniTOP will be held via telco or irc. 20:00 CEST

Attendees: Dirk, Magu, MSchiffer, NEO, u60

== Action items from last meeting ==

== Topics ==
 * [[Software/Assessment/Documentation|Software-Asessment Documentation]] review
 * State Testserver Update
  * Current Patch on Testserver: [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=876|Bug# 876]] 
   * "0000876: NRP-DaL to be removed immediately NRP-DaL Link"
   * verification documentation by transfer patch to critical team after review by 2nd Software-Assessor
  * Preparing "Thawte" patch [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=827|Bug# 827]]
 * Andreas/Markus: signer deployment - Updates ?
 * Automated testing system
  * Andreas
 * next meeting: Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 ?

== Minutes ==
 * review of [[Software/Assessment/Documentation|Software-Asessment Documentation]]
  * no comments
 * State Testserver Update
  * current patch [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=876|Bug# 876]] "0000876: NRP-DaL to be removed immediately NRP-DaL Link" has been deployed by Markus onto cacert-devel and testserver cacert1. Tests have been finished.
  * Dirk has to walk thru documentation [[Software/Assessment/Documentation|Software-Asessment Documentation]] from step Software-Assessors (part II), to review the patch and transfer the patch to the Critical team, and to walk thru the further procedure to reset cacert-devel, to add the Thawte patche(s) [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=827|Bug# 827]] and transfer it to the testserver. This is also the verification process for the documentation.
 * signer deployment - defered
 * Automated testing system
  * Andreas has started this project, but currently no progress
  * Who knows about "Automated Testing Systems" (CI  Continous Integration) ? A framework to automate testing ?
  * CI Samples of Software: Cruise Control /  Hudson
  * 2 links from a Webmontag presentation:
   * [[http://www.andreas-demmer.de/downloads/pdf/continuous-integration_folien_webmontag_20100816.pdf]]
   * [[http://www.andreas-demmer.de/downloads/pdf/continuous-integration_notizen_webmontag_20100816.pdf]]
  * Andreas proposal was probably a Firefox plugin (?!?) => [[ http://seleniumhq.org/|Selenium]]
  * What about Scrum ?
  * Magu, MSchiffer volunteers for a deployment with Selenium
  * Q: needs this to be installed onto the testserver ? or as client to a testserver ? or does the software collects the webroot of a server ?
   * A: to be installed on any server, as client. Works like a browser. Also tasks like Output/Action compare against content of database
  * Do we need a 2nd testserver ? to reset frequently the database ?
 * next meeting: => Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010  20:00 UTC

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Action items:
 * Uli: to contact Markus to schedule a meeting with dirk about the Software-Assessor 2 procedure

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