* Case Number: a20140221.1 * Status: closed * Claimant: Neal O * Respondent: CAcert * initial Case Manager: EvaStöwe * Case Manager: MartinGummi * Arbitrator: EvaStöwe * Date of arbitration start: 2014-02-23 * Date of ruling: 2014-03-30 * Case closed: 2014-06-30 * Complaint: Case of death Wenzel B * Relief: TBD Before: Arbitrator EvaStöwe (A), Respondent: CAcert (R), Claimant: Neal O (C), Case: a20140221.1 == History Log == . 2014-02-21 (issue.c.o): case [s20140221.89] . 2014-02-21 (iCM): added to wiki, request for CM / A . 2014-02-21 (iCM): send notification to C . 2014-02-23 (CM): I'll take this case as CM and select Eva Stöwe as (A) . 2014-02-23 (A): init mail to C . 2014-02-23 (A): intermediate ruling & execution order to support . 2014-02-23 (Support): executed block . 2014-02-23 (A): send mail to primary email address of (late?) member to check that nobody answeres that address anymore . 2014-03-30 (A): ruling, send to C, Support, CM . 2014-06-30 (A): informs C about execution, thanks participants of the case . 2014-06-30 (CM): close case == Private Part == * '''Link to Arbitration case [[Arbitrations/priv/a20140221.1|a20140221.1 (Private Part)]], Access for (CM) + (A) only''' ## ==> INCLUDE SECTION BOT <> ## <== INCLUDE SECTION EOT ==== EOT Private Part ==== == original Dispute == Was in german, and contained mostly private information. It is a report of a death from a member of a local club of the reporter (C), that happened last year. == Discovery == A member was reported to be dead by another member. A link to an obituary was included. A test if the (late) member would response on his primary email adderess (because the report may have been wrong) was not respeonded on for over a month. This implies that the member is deceased, as well. There are few options for us to check on the death of a member further. The orbituary can be considered as a good evidence. As there is nobody who may access the account, legally, it should be closed. The member had no certificates and had not issued any assurances. Because of this there are no unclear R/L/O to be considered, as soon as the CCA is declared to be terminated and the account is closed, by an arbitrator. == intermediate Ruling == Since there is currently nobody who may legaly use the account of the late [name of deciesed person], support should block his account until further notice from arbitration. -- Darmstadt, 2014-02-23 == Ruling == The account of Wenzel B should be closed by support, as the report of the death of the member seems regrettably to be true. The CCA with the Wenzel B should be terminated with the date of this ruling (if it can be considered to be running after the death at all). As there are no further R/L/O to consider in this case, at the moment the CCA is terminated, nothing has to be ordered in this regard. Cologne, 2014-03-30 == Execution == . 2014-02-23 (A): intermediate ruling & execution order to support . 2014-02-23 (Support): executed block . 2014-03-30 (A): ruling send to C, Support . 2014-03-30 (A): execution order to Support . 2014-03-30 (Support): ack - cannot delete account currently, because of int. ruling in [[Arbitrations/a20140322.1|a20140322.1]] . 2014-06-30 (Support): deleted account . 2014-06-30 (A): informs C about execution, thanks participants of the case == Similiar Cases == || [[Arbitrations/a20140118.1|a20140118.1]] || [[Arbitrations/a20140118.1|Need for precedent case how to handle tickets of a deceased person ]] || || [[Arbitrations/a20140123.2|a20140123.2]] || [[Arbitrations/a20140123.2|How to report the Death of an Assurer]] || || [[Arbitrations/a20131204.1|a20131204.1]] || [[Arbitrations/a20131204.1|Member passed away ]] || || [[Arbitrations/a20110310.1|a20110310.1]] || [[Arbitrations/a20110310.1|Appeal on case a20100212.2]] || || [[Arbitrations/a20100212.2|a20100212.2]] || [[Arbitrations/a20100212.2|Account removal, member is deceased ]] || ---- . CategoryArbitration . CategoryArbCaseOthers